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DeepSeek V3 vs Qwen 3 235B

DeepSeek
DeepSeek V3

DeepSeek · 671B params · Quality: 86

Alibaba
Qwen 3 235B

Alibaba · 235B params · Quality: 88

Architecture Comparison

SpecDeepSeek V3Qwen 3 235B
TypeMOEMOE
Total Parameters671B235B
Active Parameters37B22B
Layers6194
Hidden Dimension7,1685,120
Attention Heads12864
KV Heads14
Context Length131,072131,072
Precision (default)BF16BF16
Total Experts256128
Active Experts88

Memory Requirements

PrecisionDeepSeek V3Qwen 3 235B
BF16 Weights1342.0 GB470.0 GB
FP8 Weights671.0 GB235.0 GB
INT4 Weights335.5 GB117.5 GB
KV-Cache / Token31232 B192512 B
Activation Estimate3.00 GB3.00 GB

Minimum GPUs Needed (BF16)

H100 SXMN/A7 GPUs
L40SN/AN/A

Quality Benchmarks

BenchmarkDeepSeek V3Qwen 3 235B
Overall8688
MMLU87.188.0
HumanEval65.062.0
GSM8K89.394.0
MT-Bench87.088.0

DeepSeek V3

MMLU
87.1
HumanEval
65.0
GSM8K
89.3
MT-Bench
87.0

Qwen 3 235B

MMLU
88.0
HumanEval
62.0
GSM8K
94.0
MT-Bench
88.0

Capabilities

FeatureDeepSeek V3Qwen 3 235B
Tool Use✓ Yes✓ Yes
Vision✗ No✗ No
Code✓ Yes✓ Yes
Math✓ Yes✓ Yes
Reasoning✗ No✓ Yes
Multilingual✓ Yes✓ Yes
Structured Output✓ Yes✓ Yes

API Pricing Comparison

Cheapest Output (DeepSeek V3)

$0.42/M

Input: $0.28/M

Cheapest Output (Qwen 3 235B)

$3.00/M

Input: $1.50/M

ProviderDeepSeek V3 In $/MOut $/MQwen 3 235B In $/MOut $/M
deepseek$0.28$0.42
together$0.50$2.80$1.50$3.00
fireworks$1.80$3.50

Recommendation Summary

  • Qwen 3 235B scores higher on overall quality (88 vs 86).
  • DeepSeek V3 is cheaper per output token ($0.42/M vs $3.00/M).
  • Qwen 3 235B has a smaller memory footprint (470.0 GB vs 1342.0 GB BF16), making it easier to deploy on fewer GPUs.
  • DeepSeek V3 is stronger at code generation (HumanEval: 65.0 vs 62.0).
  • Qwen 3 235B is better at math reasoning (GSM8K: 94.0 vs 89.3).

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